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Anyone looked into shipping home yet?

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talonf4u

Sun Fast 3200 "Barcanova"
My main issue with racing this year is time. I don't have the time to sail it home. Anyone coordinating for shipping deals yet this year? That's going to be the make or break for me.
 
Check with Matson on their shipping schedule and rates for SHTP racers. Also, be aware the ship volume traveling to Hawaii has reduced due to the lower need for goods on the island. This could delay shipments in both directions.

Regards,
Brian
 
brianb said:
Also, be aware the ship volume traveling to Hawaii has reduced due to the lower need for goods on the island. This could delay shipments in both directions.
Regards, Brian
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Not to worry. As long as there is rum for the mai tais we’re ready in Hanalei Bay. I’ve had these paper umbrellas since 2019.

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Others will need to chime in here but is the barge from Kauai going to be available with the crane? If so how much does the crane handle weight wise because a SF3200 weighs a lot more than an Olson 30.

Also, lead is for keels, not umbrellas in your drinks !
 
I see the SF3200 comes in at 7500 lbs base. Do you have a trailer? If the barge is an option if the crane is capable. If you have a cradle then you would need to sail it to Oahu to travel lift out. You'll also need to hire someone with a large enough truck to move it from the yard to Matson. My all up load (boat/trailer/gear) came in about 6500 lbs so I was able to just rent a pickup from Enterprise to move it.
 
solosailor said:
Others will need to chime in here but is the barge from Kauai going to be available with the crane? If so how much does the crane handle weight wise because a SF3200 weighs a lot more than an Olson 30.

Also, lead is for keels, not umbrellas in your drinks !
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How else are us low-carb folks supposed to sweeten our drinks?
 
Yeah, she's heavy compared to all these little downwind boats... I don't have a trailer but the boat fits about right on a J/105 trailer so it isn't impossible to borrow or rent one. I was assuming I'd need to sail it to Honolulu but you guys are implying that if the crane can handle the load, I could barge it back from Kauai, eh?
 
The barge is making trips, but the frequency is down. The Crane lifted a Catalina 34 a few years back onto a trailer. I believe they weigh in at about 11,000 lbs. There is an issue with weight and keel depth. The deeper the keel, the further your boat will be from the dock. The further the crane boom has to reach. At some point the crane ends up in the water with the boom laying in the boats deck. In order to get an understanding of what is possible I would suggest contacting Larry Conklin, the crane owner/operator and all around expert on getting this done. Biz is Island Crane, he has an email contact. Private message me and I will send his phone number.
 
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brianb said:
The barge is making trips, but the frequency is down. The Crane lifted a Catalina 34 a few years back onto a trailer. I believe they weigh in at about 11,000 lbs. There is an issue with weight and keel depth. The deeper the keel, the further your boat will be from the dock. The further the crane boom has to reach. At some point the crane ends up in the water with the boom laying in the boats deck. In order to get an understanding of what is possible I would suggest contacting Larry Conklin, the crane owner/operator and all around expert on getting this done. Biz is Island Crane, he has an email contact. Private message me and I will send his phone number.
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This is mostly, but not exactly, accurate. Specific to Margie's former boat (the Catalina 34) it was craned out in Kauai and barged to Honolulu, but not by Larry's crane.
That lift required a different larger crane, special for that lift. The fact that Matson let it roll down the ramp while loading it in Honolulu is not directly pertinent, but it happened.

Definitely want to talk to Larry, but it sounds to me like the combination of keel depth (meaning the crane arm needs to extend out farther from the shore and thus increasing the "tipping force") and weight will put you on the bubble.
In recent years, Larry's working number with his rig is in the neighborhood of 6900 lbs; that will vary with how deep the water is on the quay and how far he'll need to extend his rigs jib boom.
 
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For those of us who are looking to ship home via a delivery crew (unfortunately I don't have the time to sail back from Kauai, and I can't ship the boat back either because of her size), I need to get a surveyor to do an inspection in order to underwrite insurance coverage for the trip back for my delivery crew. I spoke with Larry tonight after the Zoom call. He is checking for surveyor for me. Larry is also asking to see if there is anyone else looking to hire a surveyor in Kauai. Please let me know. Thanks.
-Will, SEA WISDOM
 
Going from foggy memory here, but I believe it needs to be done in Kauai because of the break in coverage that is usually involved, plus whoever is writing the rider will want to know the current condition of the boat, not the condition before an ocean passage.
Again, that's just my memory. I imagine the best thing is to clarify with whoever is actually asking for the survey.

DH
 
That's right, the survey has to be done in Kauai after the race and before the delivery crew sailing back to SF. It makes the logistics challenging because it takes time to do the survey and then writing up the survey. Then the insurance company has to underwrite it.
 
The latest development is that in 2021, no carrier would underwrite coverage for a crewed delivery after a singlehanded race. In 2020, they would do it, but not in 2021!!! I assume Sea Wisdom's 42 ft LOA is too big to get shipped back with the rest of the fleet. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Is there another way to get the boat back besides sailing back solo? Thanks for everyone's insight.
 
Matson Shipping Info - 3/19/2021

All -
I heard back from Matson and here is what I know as of right now 03/19/2021

Rates -
$80/measured Ton; 1 measured ton= 40 Cubic Feet
The Cubic tonnage Measurement consists of:
  1. the total length of the boat, plus any extra trailer length (eg tongue or tail past the bow or stern) x
  2. the total height of the boat sitting on the trailer (if the mast / spreaders are on top, it counts, as do lifelines) x
  3. the max width of the boat (or trailer, whichever is greater)
the length of the mast does not count in this measurement

quick math for a 30' boat - (30'Lx11'Wx12'H=3960 cubic feet)/40 = 99 measured tons - 99*$80 = $7920
**this is just quick math and the published rates; experience has shown that there will likely be surcharges and other costs that will add to the base price.

Size Limits
  • Width - NTE 12'W
  • Height- NTE 14'T (measured from the ground)
  • Length- NTE 80'L

When do you need to ship the trailer?
They don't have a precise sailing schedule yet past May, but with one boat in lay-up things are definitely going to take longer than past years.
official word is to plan on a 3-4 week transit time for your trailer to Kauai form OAK.
That means that for Larry to have enough time to collect it and resolve any issues, you need to plan to ship your trailer NLT the first week of June
The trailer ships free Eastbound

Misc Reminders
as noted elsewhere, you're empty trailer will have to pass Agricultural inspection in Kauai; unlocked, empty and clean trailer boxes and take the time to hose off any cobwebs or other detritus that's accumulated around the axles/undercarriage.
GET IN TOUCH WITH LARRY CONKLIN ASAP - (808)639-1021; [email protected]

DH
 
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If you are thinking of selling the boat rather than shipping or sailing it back, please let me know. A friend of mine here in Hilo is looking for an ocean-worthy sail boat. PM me here or send email to me at lee [dot] johnson [at] q [dot] com.
 
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