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Late Pacs
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pogen
Sailing canoe "Kūʻaupaʻa"
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Thanks for asking Jackie.
The result was mixed. I sailed farther out and longer than I ever have but not far enough to complete the qualifying sail.
Here is the link to the Delorme page. https://share.delorme.com/ToddOlsen
I have two windows of time to do the qualifying sail, this one and early June.
The forecast was for up to 25 knots NW with declining but still active seas and an anticipated decrease in wind coming into this weekend. I know from other small sailboats that I can sail around SE Farallon Island without getting sea sick, but if I focus on something or go down into the cabin, I start feeling queasy. In the afternoon, Tues, the day of departure, after passing SE Farallon Island, I was dry, but getting chilly. I went down to the cabin and soon became sea sick. For the night, I continued to sail out, and I told myself, before going, that if I was going to pull the plug, I would wait until noon the next day, to make the decision with the sun well up and me warmed up from the night.
I wish I had done that. By 7:30 the next morning, not eating, sleeping (nausea trumped sleep), or drinking much water, I was concerned that I would get myself and others into difficulty. The Delorme inReach Explorer worked well, maybe too well, supplying a track for my wife and daughters to check on progress and a text line to communicate. They sent along supportive messages such as, "Hope the first day went well!", "Do you have entertainment?", "Are you okay? Did you bring Meclizine?", and "Maybe come home n try again another time?".
What I really needed was General Roper to send a msg to tell me to toughen up.
So I decided to put aside my personal goal to wait until noon and turned back 7:30A.
For next time, I will:
1. Look for a forecast with <25 knots WS if not off wind.
2. Try 1/2 scopolamine patch. The side effects can include, "confusion, agitation, extreme fear, hallucinations, unusual thoughts or behavior". I already know I will hallucinate, I did this time, so I do not want to further encourage this. I may just do a day trip out to the Gulf of the Farallones on the medication, me in and out of the cabin, testing things out.
3. More seriously consider a downwind destination as a Plan B, before pulling the plug AM second day.
Todd
The Smokester
New member
Todd, It means a lot that you shared this. I am in a similar spot and need to qualify with a LatePac. Although I have soloed the Farallons and been out for 24 hr solo, when I complete the LatePac it will be my personal best for SH'ed sailing...The longest I will have ever done solo. I was impressed that you just did it, particularly at this time of year. I will make mine in the next few weeks. If you have any advice, particularly how you chose your window, I am all ears. Let me buy you a beer. Or two. Best regards, The Who in s/v Owl
Philpott
Cal 2-27 Dura Mater
Todd! Well, that is too bad but now you know for next time. I am impressed and also understand the nausea. The first time I sailed in an OYRA race on Temerity with David Nabors he kept sending me down to get spinnakers, which made me sicker every time. First one, then another. By the third time I was so nauseous! He called down to me, "Where's that spinnaker?!" I was throwing up in his galley sink and then I felt much better ;-)
The Smokester
New member
Based on PredictWind, the conditions look good for April 3, 4, 5.
pogen
Sailing canoe "Kūʻaupaʻa"
Cool, I hear Oxycontin is a great seasickness cure and I'd like to give that a try sometime.
I think I read something about cutting a Scopolamine patch in two in an earlier post? Back when Scopolamine patches were new, I used them for a Metropolitan YC Coastal Cup. Because I was cheap, I tried cutting them in half so the supply would last longer - my insurance didn't cover their cost - and they were expensive. One of my crew on that trip to Catalina was a sports doc. He cautioned me that the dose was metered by the patch's liner and that breaking (cutting) that liner fouled up the metering. He said I could get a heavier dose than was planned or that it might allow the medicine to evaporate without doing its job. I'd suggest checking with someone medical about the wisdom of cutting into the patch. You might also ask Ms.Mr. Anonymous about the patch's age and expiration date. I'm an English major, not a Medical major, so this is all 2nd hand info. Pat B.
svShearwater
Shearwater & Spadefoot
This doesn't work for everyone, but I've found a very simple solution. I take Dramamine 2 nights before leaving the dock, sleep like a baby, then I take it again the night before, and sleep like a baby again. By the time I leave the dock I have plenty in my system and I'm over the drowsiness. Ready to rock! The side benefit of sleeping great the 2 nights leading up the big day is reason enough to follow this plan as my mind starts working in overdrive pre-race and I normally don't sleep for crap.
There is a very effective sea-sickness medicine called Stugeron (15mg). It can even work after you have become sick as long as you don't throw it up 
. The catch is that it has not been available in the US and it used to require a prescription. My wife is a physician and brought some from Holland. It looks like it is now available from Canada without prescription. (canadadrugs.com and probably other places). There don't seem to be any major side effects like patches.
Cheers,
-jak
. The catch is that it has not been available in the US and it used to require a prescription. My wife is a physician and brought some from Holland. It looks like it is now available from Canada without prescription. (canadadrugs.com and probably other places). There don't seem to be any major side effects like patches. Cheers,
-jak
Philpott
Cal 2-27 Dura Mater
Stugeron can be purchased via ebay.
Buying drugs on eBay sounds just one small step away from a little plastic bag and a street corner. I love it.
Philpott
Cal 2-27 Dura Mater
When I was at Cal I lived in a big Edwardian house painted pink. The Pink Palace, we called it. Two of my roommates were graduate students in chemical engineering. The entire attic was full of hamster cages and black lights. No rodents in sight. And the ingredients for the good stuff was brought from the office. Put new meaning into: "Don't leave home without it." Ebay? Child's play.
dhusselman
New member
I might go on Thursday, or otherwise next week.
Dirk "TIJD" - First 30JK
Dirk "TIJD" - First 30JK