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Long Pac to test Delorme Inreach and Pinnacle Tracking Web Page - volunteers ?

brianb

brianb

Olson 34 Driver
If you are doing the Long Pac we will have available a set of Delorme Inreach units. The rental rate for the units will be about $35. I don't yet have the precise number. If you are doing the Long Pac it would be a great help to the SSS to rent a unit and let us conduct a test of the Pinnacle Tracking Website capabilities, as we did for the Single Handed Farallon's . The tracking page will show vessels every one hour while on the course. The tracking rate will be tripled as boats are within the last 1/2 degree of longitude of the 126 deg 40 min goal line.


Please join in the test. Contact me via PM here.

Regards,

Brian
 
Certa Ceto vounteers to rent and be part of the test. I have been thinking about purchasing the Delorme Explorer unit in any case, so this would be good experience.
 
Is this optional DeLorme going to be the only tracker for LongPac?

Also, racers are fobidden to look at the tracker or talk to anyone about it, right??
 
Hi David,

I don't know of any other tracker planned for the Long Pac, officially. See Max. Yes, racers would not be allowed to view the track map, nor speak to anyone about it. We would limit the live feed. Like the 2014 SHTP we will delay the live feed a few hours, so it won't be live any longer.

Brian
 
Is the plan to use the tracker for the LongPac?

I think $35 is worth it. It seems very cheap compared to all other requirements. It also allows racers to sent messages.

Dirk "TIJD" - First 30JK
 
The short answer is that the ability to track and see the relative positions, course changes, speeds, etc of the other competitors in real time constitutes receiving Outside Assistance, See Rule 41.
Delaying that information is felt to make it a less relevant tactical tool, regardless of how that information is received aboard [live feed, radio, satphone call home, etc].

DH
 
I snagged one of these while on sale at REI. Looking into the different service plans. Any feedback as to how the different plans will connect/coordinate to the LongPac tracking test?
 
pogen said:
Is this optional DeLorme going to be the only tracker for LongPac?
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If you have anything else that can send your position to RC, RC would be glad to receive it. We/they (TBD) won't attempt to integrate it into a tracking map but will report it now and then.
 
pogen said:
I have AIS class B transmit. Not sure how far out it goes.

https://www.vesselfinder.com/?mmsi=338108542
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I pick up AIS transmissions from vessels 40 nm away sometimes. I use a splitter to my mast top whip so I get pretty good receive coverage and, hopefully, this is also true of my transmit. Of course you loose the ability to check on yourself on marinetraffic or what not once you are about 15 nm offshore and loose your cell signal.

BTW my Son is a mate in the merchant marine and tells me he rarely sees sailboats on the ships radar. Always sees AIS though.
 
Lightspeed said:
I snagged one of these while on sale at REI. Looking into the different service plans. Any feedback as to how the different plans will connect/coordinate to the LongPac tracking test?
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I used a personal Delorme Explorer on the Farallons Race. The rental company couldn't integrate it into their map ('cause they're dummies), but it was available for viewing who had my URL.
 
The Smokester said:
I used a personal Delorme Explorer on the Farallons Race. The rental company couldn't integrate it into their map ('cause they're dummies), but it was available for viewing who had my URL.
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We are working with Pinnacle to see about getting visibility of the private units in this 2 nd test of their tracking system. They have promised this can be done by the 2016 SHTP but we want to see it in action. If you have a private Delorme, the yellow unit or the red unit, we will need the IMEI number to get it shown on the chart shown on the web page.

Regards,

Brian
 
It is possible to track AIS by satellite. At least two services exist that do this. Someone would have to pay for the service and set up a fleet with listed MMSI numbers. It might not work too well close to SF due to collisions with all the marine traffic in the area.
 
NSA has all the data

pogen said:
I guess that's how ships 1000 nm offshore get plotted on VesselFinder.com and similar sites.
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Do we have an attorney in the SSS ? We could file a freedom of information request for real time data from NSA sats. After all, we already paid for this.
 
The SSS is completing the testing of Pinnacle Tracking with a second test during the Long Pac. This is to qualify the Pinnacle Tracking system using Delorme trackers. If you would like to participate please contact Brian Boschma
[email protected]. There will be a limited number of units
available at cost for $35 for the week.

In the Long Pac race the system will do a position update once per hour.
The data will be captured on a private web page only accessible to
the race committee. The purpose is for the RC to be able to
evaluate the system. Racers, in compliance with the rules, cannot have access to this data by any means. No phone calls home, SSB calls, or email/text messages.

If you own a Delorme tracker and would like to participate that would also be helpful to the SSS. There is no charge if you have your own unit. We are still working with Pinnacle to make this happen, so this is not assured quite yet for the Long Pac.

The following information should be forwarded to [email protected].

Boat Name
Emergency Contact Name
Emergency Contact Phone Number
Boat Type
PHRF Rating
IMEI number if you have your own SE or Explorer Delorme unit.

The units will be distributed at the skippers meeting and a check for the rental fee will be gladly accepted at that time.
 
An update on the Tracker uptake. It appears we have 9 entrants who have volunteered. I will order a few extra units in case others would like to take advantage of the system. At this point it appears including private units in the Pinnacle system, at this time, isn't going to be possible due to contract restrictions between Pinnacle and Delorme. They are going to have this worked out in the next few months so in the 2016 SHTP this will be resolved.
 
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