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Most common breakages/least important and most important "required" equipment

Steevee

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Most common breakages/least important and most important "required" equipment

I'm interested in feedback from SHTP/PacCup veterans on their experience and thoughts with their most common breakages and what equipment that was required for the race that they found to be least important and most important.
Thanks!
 
Rudders, autopilots, vang attachments, and goosenecks are all likely failure points. That's the stuff that is constantly moving. Add spinnaker pole or whisker pole too.

Least important stuff. Well, there is a bunch of stuff you will never use, hopefully, until you need it, then it is essential. Not much point in putting required gear on this list, since you will be bringing it whether you think it is important or not. Not required and not important... Actually, fewer tools. I wouldn't limit what I could fix, but I would bring far fewer redundancies. We brought a set of sockets, a set of box wrenches, a crescent wrench, and channel locks. Another boat brought two crescent wrenches. Not much I could do that they couldn't.

Important stuff. We brought a cordless drill and used it and we would have been very, very sad without it. If you have a small boat, I'd bring more clothes. We thought we'd be all tough and serious and brought two pairs of underwear last time. I was literally wet for 11 days of the 11 day trip. By the last day I couldn't sit down. What I would have given for a dry, salt-free pair of drawers every day or two.

I imagine these lists will really vary depending on the person and the weather and the boat.
 
You reaffirmed my thoughts on a redundant auto-pilot and a good e-rudder...and I have definitely found I only used a few tools regularly on my boat even when in the boatyard. I will definitely bring more than 2 pairs of underwear...that sounds painful.
I'm just trying to get an idea of how to prioritize importance of all the required gear, all the while understanding that it's all potentially essential.
 
How many of you carried a spare mainsail?
Not I. I would bet that's unusual.

I had no significant breakages on the SHTP. (Edit: I take it back. I blew out my primary spinnaker in the last 12 hours of the race, but I had three others on board.) I did lose the rudder on a Farallones race, but (unusually) the E-rudder was on board because I expected to start the LongPac 4 days later.

When you think about spare autopilots, don't overlook putting another pin in the tiller. Those pins often work loose and fall out. (Mine is still good after some 10 years, knock on wood.)

My biggest mechanical problem, hard to foresee, was failure to pump water when I ran the engine to charge the batteries. At home the boat is almost always at rest or moving slowly when I start the engine, but on the SHTP I might be doing hull speed. So the water intake was in the valley between the bow and stern waves. With a greater distance to lift the water, plus excessive clearance between the impeller and housing due to being old and worn, the water pump had trouble priming itself. So a spare water pump would have been useful. Or a newer engine!

Max
 
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How many of you carried a spare mainsail?

Tiger Beetle carried a spare mainsail, along with spare battens. Made no sense to me to have multiple headsails and spinnakers and then have only a single sail for the one sail that will remain up the entire race. So I carried the 'old' main along with the new/current main.
 
Stuff that breaks.

I didn't have any 'common' breakages, but did have to repair/replace things during the races over:

Autopilot ram and motor - those fail, I've had to swap in the second autopilot at some point during each race to Hawaii.
Fuses and circuit breakers - these go out, carry spares fuses and circuit breakers. Write on the fuse box which equipment the fuses are for.
Spinnaker poles and mast cars - these break, carry a sleeve and rivets for the pole, and a second car for the pole butt end on the mast.
Halyards - chafe is the problem, carry a spare halyard, be prepared to trim a short section of halyard every couple of days if you have chafe problems.
Engine raw water impeller - have a spare and any tooling needed to remove/install the impeller.
Engine fuel filters - this is a common failure if the start is particularly bouncy and gunk in the tank is stirred up. Carry lots of fuel filters.
Winch pawls - these break, particularly if the winch is 'sawed' rather than rotated through 360 by the winch handle. Carry spare pawls and springs, and know how to strip the winch to replace broken pawls.
Full batten mainsail cars - these break when slatting, have at least one spare on board.
Spinnaker sheets - these get beaten hard, particularly chafing under the boom. Have blocks to lead spin sheet clear of the boom and life lines, and carry at least one spare spin sheet.
After guy - chafe when the guy goes through the pole jaw, be prepared to trim the guy shorter during the race, have chafing gear on board.
Interior cabin lights - the bulbs go out, have some spare bulbs to keep the lights on at night.
Clevis pins - these can crack, shear, and bend. Carry at least one spare clevis pin for each diameter of pin in the rigging (and extra cotter pins!).
Monitor wind vane - have lost some plastic bearings/bushings, carry spares and a circlip removal/installation tool to get the clips back on (very difficult without the tool).

Major failures that I have not had, but which would require some forethought to prepare for:
Boom vang: vang breaks, or attachment points at mast or boom fail. Lot of load there, if the vang supports the boom's weight, how will you support the weight if the vang dies?
Gooseneck: these break, especially if the attachment is a cast aluminum fitting. Very difficult to jury rig, consider carrying a spare gooseneck if you're at all uncertain about how you'd go about re-attaching the boom to the mast.
Broken shrouds/stays: if you don't lose the mast immediately, you have a chance to re-rig the broken section if you have materials on board. I carry (as spares) wire in required diameters along with turnbuckles and end fittings such that I can replace the longest piece of each diameter wire. (For instance, I have three wire diameters in the rig, so I have one piece of wire for each diameter). For the backstay I carry a length of vectran (cheaper, lighter than wire). Pretty much impossible to do if you have rod rigging, depending on the mast tang fitting.

Major failures I have had:
Rudder failure - carry an emergency rudder that works.
Headstay failure - didn't lose the mast, was able to continue sailing to Hawaii under spinnaker. Ran lots of halyards forward to deck padeyes to keep masthead tensioned. Actual failure was the headstay stem fitting at a weld point, that had to be fabricated and shipped to Hanalei for installation.

- rob
 
Ditto on the gooseneck. Awkward to jury rig, not easy to fix even in a slip.

Current wait for a common cast gooseneck from Rig-Rite (the only supplier for Kenyon): "Backordered. Maybe in stock by spring".
 
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Agree completely with Rob MacFarland. Can't speak to the mainsail slides since I only use the old fashioned slugs...of which I do always carry spares. Have often carried spare main, but not always. Spare spin poles: Yes! When I was dismasted, a spin pole was destroyed in the same event. Still had two that enabled me to rig a jury rig mast with 2 poles each secured to opposite toe rails with lines rigged fore and aft. Used small jibs hoisted with jib foot becoming the luff. Got me there.
In short, look at the things that "might" happen...aforementioned...and be prepared to cope with them. Remember the Boy Scout motto!
 
Bolts/screws etc should all be put in with some Duralac (and have a selection of replacement parts)
Autopilot (said many times before....but all aspects and Especially the connections should be much stronger than seems reasonable)
Spare rudder (hopefully unused.....but should work well and be deployable in an unpleasant sea state)

Do have lots of people look over your project that have ocean sailing experience. Over time they will pick up less and less.

Chris (Ventus)
 
"I showed mine..."

So what is DM getting for Christmas?

You guys are so predictable its funny.



I broke the vang bale and had to rig a strap, fortunately plenty of spare webbing on board. Then I broke the lower vang block and had to replace that with the block from my Cunningham. Ugly, but it worked. A supply of strong webbing and various spare blocks/shackles is a really good idea.

Headboard slug whipping parted. Had to stand on tippytoes in six foot seaway to resew the webbing. Took three hours. I should have had some kind of mast step for better positioning. Removing the main to do a repair seemed like a huge huge hassle so I did not go there. Make sure you have good stuff in the marlinspike/sail repair kit and know how to use it.

Agree with electric drill. Used mine to drill a hole in aft end of a batten for a lanyard attachment after the batten came loose and was almost lost. I also brought a batt powered grinder (cutter) and a multitool for emergencies but never used them.

Totally agree with extra clothes!! I was wet full time for the last 7 days. Sailed nude for the last day just to dry out. The forward cabin smelled like the worst kind of locker room by the time some of that stuff had steeped in the tropics for a few days. I came into Hanalei shirtless not because I felt like Tarzan but because I did not have a frikking dry shirt left in the boat. Hell, I would have worn a wet shirt if they didn't smell like they had been stored in a locker room used by the walking dead.

I brought way too much food and got too clever with what I brought which was a lot of stuff I normally don't eat. Next time i am sticking to tried and true foods which I normally consume. I tended to snack a lot and ate a solid dinner most every day. I have some Amazon bought MREs on board for emergency use. You really don't need that much food. I was surprised that a hot cup of instant coffee slowly grew into the high point of my day.

Bring a mask, fins and a helmet of some sort. If you have to go for a swim to inspect the rudder or whatever, you want to see if you can avoid dying. Also... ahem...in all the excitement, don't forget to remove your PFD when you jump in. Or, if intend to test your PFD at this point, as was my plan, pack a spare charge for your vest and know how to replace the charge. It is also a good idea to ensure you have a reliable way to get back into the boat. I have a PLB attached to my PFD but it would be truly embarrassing to call out the CG and ask them if they could possibly give you a little boost up into the cockpit.

Make sure you have a safe place to sleep. After experiencing an unscheduled flight through the main cabin and waking up from a deep sleep when my knees, elbows and head simultaneously hit the cabin sole. I became one with the sole for the rest if the trip. A good lee cloth rig would have been a much better solution as both Rick Elkins and Cliff Shaw tried to convey to me on multiple occasions prior to the race.

With regard to sails. I brought the required storm tri and jib although I may have been able to sell my deep third reef as a storm tri I went ahead and bought both storm sails so I had something, albeit very small, if I lost the main. I did loose the jib during the last part of the race and used the the storm jib for about 24 hours up to the finish. Although I did not loose the main I got a LOT of wear and tear. Sails and running rigging really get ridden hard. Post race I had to take both my sails into Marchal's and have significant repairs done.

And, finally, if you bring water in 3 gallon jugs it is a great idea to bring some way to get the water from the jug into a usable container such as a water bottle or a pot. I can tell you with certainty that is is impossible to time the roll such that you can pour water out of jug into a water bottle without loosing three quarters of the water. Furthermore you will become obsessed with getting that damn jug water into that damn drinking bottle and very quickly become unhinged from reality.

As long as you don't kill yourself it is probably the best way on the planet to accumulate, in record time, an unforgettable series adventures, misadventures and downright keystone cops hilarity.
 
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