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Boat choice

Jack Modifications

The list is really pretty extensive. I totally acknowledge that the parts of Capri 25 build quality is less than stellar. I stated in an earlier post that I would not sail a stock Capri 25 in the Transpac, although in years past one did race and placed quite well despite sailing the last three days with a wrapped chute. The hull laminate is strong and, as attested to by the core sections I removed while installing a transducer for the SHTP, holding up quite well. It rates well, sails well, and has a great deal of reserve buoyancy (a gentle way of saying it is fat). I have owned the boat for almost two decades and these modifications have taken place over that time span.

I got the boat really cheap after it had hit a submerged cement ramp at 6 kn. in SD Bay. The keel was bent back into the boat by about 30 deg. I promised my dear and wonderful wife I would have it off the front yard in 3 weeks. I removed the keel, cut a 6' x 4' hole in the bottom, laminated a solid 6"x5"x5' fiberglass plank that spanned the distance from under the compression post to the aft floor of the liner (at the aft end of the cabin). I then laminated in 1" thick oak floors at athwartships every 8" that notched into the center glass plank and extended out 24' to either side of the center plank. The gaps between these floors were filled with more foam core, the bottom was faired in, glassed, and faired in again. The keel was refitted to through the fiberglass plank. As the experience with the other Capri 25 in the race proves, the stock keel mounting is a bit light. In the 20 years since I did this I have yet to see even a gelcoat stress crack.

The cabin top and the storm hood flexed with my weight (250 lbs.). I put in a network of 2" thick foam stringers glassed into the underside of the cabin top and made it quite stiff. The stringers extend down the inside of the cabin trunk to the deck level. I put a vertical bridge on the back edge of the storm hood to stiffen it and integrated it into a group of Harken cam cleats for the running rigging. The boat actually left the front lawn eight months after it arrived, yet I am still married to the same wonderful woman (sound familiar guys?).

Other than the keel, my biggest concern was the fact that the bulkheads in the boat were free floating. The rig was held up by the fact that the bulkheads were to small to pull through the deck. The primary bulkhead was held to the liner by six sheet metal screws, and the bulkheads were not integrated across the hull, but rather were two separate pieces of plywood on either side of the compression post, but not tied into it. To fix this problem I cut through the liner on both sides of the boat exposing the inside surface of the sandwich hull. I made a much thicker bulkhead (1/2" 9 ply marine plywood laminated to 1/4" teak plywood)and laminated it to the hull,the compression strut, the liner, and the floor that extends under the compression strut. It now forms a continuous ring bulkhead around interior. I put two 1/2" strips of teak that extend from the overhead to the bunk port and starboard that the upper chain plates are bolted through. It is quite stiff now.
I did the same process to the two bulkheads port and starboard aft where the quarter berths end and the aft lockers start. I plan to put an additional ring bulkhead about half way forward between the compression strut and the bow (Barry already did that on his Capri 30).

The forward hatch on the stock Capri 25 leaks and there is little to be done about that. I cut out that section of the fore cabin rebuilt it with a cored glass laminate to accept a quality Bomar foredeck hatch. The portlights also leaked and I glassed in the cabin sides with cored laminate and then installed a single Lewmar port light port and starboard that I found at Minnies in Long Beach. They make the boat look racier and more modern, and they do not leak.

The boat tended to flex a bit at the cabin/cockpit joint and when I installed and additional plywood stiffiner in this area below deck that also served as the mounting surface for my electrical panels, chart plotter etc.

I know that there is good deal of concern about the cockpit sizes on a number of boats (the Capri's included). I think that the issue to be addressed is not how big the cockpit is, but rather how long it takes to drain. A look at a great many modern performance boats demonstrate that they have large cockpits (J80, etc.) but most also have an open transom so there seems to be no concern about those boats. The Capri 25 does have a larger sized cockpit and it was a concern. I calculated the volume of the cockpit, went online to get fluid flow data for various sized pipe, and calculated that two 4" PVC drains through the transom in combination with the two stock 1" drains would dry the cockpit in close to a minute. Putting in the two drains was really easy. I put them in 3" above the stock ones to drain the vast majority of the water out but to still be high enough to avoid flooding the cockpit down wind. This modification was tested a few times during the TransPac when cresting waves flooded the cockpit (once while I was sitting in it at 2 am) and the cockpit drained just as it had been designed. Barry did something similar to his boat. I would argue that this is a really important modification, and fortunately a very easy one.

Thank you for your interest. This got long and I apologize. Those were the structural modifications that come to mind.
 

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If you are on a budget the SC27 could be a good choice. The Further guys did well in one in PacCup DH in 2012 or something.

I have a 10000 lb 34-footer, and it is way more than is needed to get to Hawaii singlehanded. Very expensive and a pain to ship home.
 
Thanks, Doug. Your modifications went much farther than I had imagined. When I looked at your boat while we chatted in the marina in Alameda after you arrived, I could see you had mad a lot of good changes. But the extent to which you have gone is amazing. Too bad failure of a little two-bit part had to interfere on the way to Hanalei, but that's how it goes sometimes. Hat's off to your wife. Like mine, they often put up with a lot!
 
Doug, Your boat was well thought out with survivability in mind. I became much more comfortable with the boat once we walked through the alterations. Once upon a time I had a J24 that wasn't allowed in offshore racing. I took the advice of Kami Richards, made a set of modifications, and survived several years of racing in the Gulf of the Faralones and trips to the southland. It can be done. BTW, your drains were awesome. You could haul a good size Mahi through there.
 
Hadn't thought of the Mahi angle. Next race, a few trolling lines out the drains??? Great idea! Thanks to you Brian and to the General for your kind words.
 
Got down to the boat this afternoon. Here are the pictures you requested of the reinforcement of the cabin top. Please be forgiving of the rough state of the cosmetics below. I pushed hard to get the boat ready for Hawaii and did not have time to make it pretty. That is the project for this summer.
 

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Thanks for posting these! It really helps to understand the work done. No worries on "pretty", I've always believed functional first then make it look good.
 
Anyone ever seen a Hobie 33 with a sugar scoop transom? Just wondering if it's a good idea to help drain the cockpit since from what I've read they can take a lot of water over the bow.
 
Anyone ever seen a Hobie 33 with a sugar scoop transom? Just wondering if it's a good idea to help drain the cockpit since from what I've read they can take a lot of water over the bow.

It's been done at least once (http://sailinganarchy.com/2013/12/09/cut-up-2/)

However, while the Hobie 33 can be a wet ride, it has a fairly small cockpit and would likely carry the water load well while it drained. I've had the cockpit in my SC27 full well above the seats (breaking wave on the return from the 1999 DH'd Farallones) and the boat did not seem to mind much. Certainly did not slow down any. It took about 10 minutes for the water level to recede.

Does this mean you have decided on the 33?
 
I like the Hobie 33 for two specific reasons not related to performance 1) Retractable Keel 2) 8 foot beam both of which makes the boat easily trailerable, which is a huge plus since I live on the east coast. I've also have my eye on a Tartan Ten in South Florida that is currently listing for $7000 (and looks to be in decent shape). Logic being that I could keep the boat on the North Carolina coast for sailing and qualifying cruises and the marina I found is only a few hours from my house. I would have to pay to have the boat moved to San Francisco but every Hobie 33 I've found cost at least $13k more than the Tartan Ten, so I'd just switch when I'm spending that money.

I do like the fact that the Tartan Ten has a fixed keel and there is no "hole" in the cabin where the keel / water could come into the boat. I think picking a boat for this race is going to drive me nuts :)

Thanks again to everyone for their help!
 
The Hobie 33 came in retractable and fixed keel versions. It I were looking I would try really hard to find a fixed keel version to keep the cabin unobstructed (among other reasons). They'll both trailer just fine and if you use a hoist launching is not a problem with the fixed keel. Find a boat you like and go from there. By the time you get to the SHTP start line the initial purchase price will be long forgotten among a pile of other invoices and bills. Just remember that if you time things just right, you die broke!
 
Sleeping Dragon is still sleeping behind the Fasco Bldg (Gate 4) at Alameda Marina. Fixed keel, updated rudder, other improvements and a great race record.

H33's have a tough rating now though, especially when sailed shorthanded. I think that was part of the reason Mark went back to sailing Lasers.

I'd go for something a little newer and with a sprit/assymetrics, and able to sail closer to its rating shorthanded. Or a WylieCat.
 
We were in this boat last summer. Looking for a 30 footish, fast, fun boat to race to Hawaii that could be easily trailered (we live in Texas). The challenge is finding newer boats that don't break the bank. Finding a sprit boat under $50k is near impossible. I think the Antrim 27 might be the only boat in that category. There aren't many of them and they would be a very exciting ride singlehanded. Maybe too exciting. If the budget is under $30k then sprit boats are probably a no go unless you do a conversion (we did).

I still think the Moore 24, Santa Cruz 27, Express 27, Olson 30, Hobie 33 are the best value for a "fun" ride to Hawaii that is easy to trailer.

Some other boats that you might have better luck finding on the East Coast that could also be fun, but might be harder to trailer. MORC type boats like an Olson 911, Capo 30, Donovan 30, Davidson 30.

I wonder why no one has taken a J/80 to Hawaii? The accommodations are crap, but the boat is solid, it goes upwind great too, easy to trailer, and reasonably priced. People have raced a J/90 (super turbo J/80) and a Farr 36 (the newer carbon version) to Hawaii and they would be both wetter and wilder than a J/80 with no better accommodations.

Or a J/27?
 
Already under contract. They don't stay on the market long around here.

You can have mine though - for about a bazillion dollars.
 
"I still think the Moore 24, Santa Cruz 27, Express 27, Olson 30, Hobie 33 are the best value for a "fun" ride to Hawaii that is easy to trailer" -Shearwater

Another boat to add to the list is the Laser 28. Light, fast and can trailer. The accommodations are decent and I know three guys who sailed one ("Megahurtz") in the Pacific Cup in 2010. You find them for under $20k.
 
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