Corinthian Race Buzzzzzz

[Wylieguy]

To get some discussion going on the Corinthian Race coming up March 19, here's a Thread for posting.

1035 Slack / 1419 Max Ebb 3.4 knots / 1821 Slack.

The Corinthian Race is a good intro to SSS in-bay racing. I hope SSS folks talk it up with racing friends who might want to dip their keel in the water, so to speak, and try an SSS race out.

 

[BobJ]

I've heard of that Max Ebb guy, but we have to wear different slacks for morning and evening? That Corinthian must be a nice club.

 

[skatzman]

The Corinthian was less then hospitable to SSS boats after last year's outing. DIANNE will be racing and would enjoy pulling in after the race for a refreshment. SDK

 

[Wylieguy]

When I suggest the Corinthian Race is a good one for new SSS racers, I'm not thinking so much about the post-race social activities. I'm more thinking about the course and how it's often kind to new singlehanders, especially this year on the Blossom to Blackaller leg which will be on the Ebb, making short tacking down the City Front unnecessary.

Over the past few years we've had around 120 boats sign up for the Corinthian Race. With some promotion I'd think we could attract more, especially after the large number of 3-Bridge boats.

I don't think there's a large social gathering following the only other "in bay" race -- the Round the Rocks. I think some boats drop in at the BYC, but how many?

There used to be a big gathering at the OYC when the East Bay race finished there, partly because you were "there" when you finished. The same is true for the Vallejo 1-2 since we're all "there" at the end of the day.

If the SSS wants a social hour following an in bay race, I suggest figuring out a way of finishing at the Richmond YC for instance. They have room and are usually hospitable.

Just some thoughts. -- Pat

 

[Henry D]

I've heard of that Max Ebb guy, but we have to wear different slacks for morning and evening? That Corinthian must be a nice club.

Hey BobJ, I am new here and it seems that the sailing on the Bay is a lot more formal than I was used to in SoCal - do I need to wear a Jacket along with the Slacks to be allowed into the club?

 

[FUGU-W30]

I've always found the Corinthian the closest thing the SSS has to a W.L. triangle buoy race, with lots of mark rounding!! Additional attractions are multiple transitions between wind zones, then deciding which tack Angel Island is on this year.

 

[skatzman]

No big thing about not pulling in to CYC. I enjoy the Corinthian Race. And plenty of SSS boats sail out of RYC and Brickyard that we have a fine jolly-i-facation there. Sailing on the ebb between two slacks should be just fine. Just get to Blossom before ebb really kicks and no short tacking along the City Front. With the hope of a westerly in the main bay the ebb will add time to the spinn run to Southhampton hole. And then a quick beat choosing the way to go around Angel to Little Harding. However, it will be tricky getting from Little Harding to the finish. Keep an eye on the boats that sail out of CYC and SFYC to see how they play the course there. Ron and Oliver in Abigail Morgan know how to play it close to Pt Know and Pt Stuart.

 

[BobJ]

Hey BobJ, I am new here and it seems that the sailing on the Bay is a lot more formal than I was used to in SoCal - do I need to wear a Jacket along with the Slacks to be allowed into the club?

Henry, if I had a canter I'd totally try that! (Sure I would.) Nah, I think I'll wear my usual dungarees into the Corinthian and see what happens. I wonder if Gamayan is going to hotwire her engine again. And Chris, Angel Island had rights on me last year. I cut it a little close and found the snag off of Point Knox (R/C called the short course last year).

Steve, the trick is to let DURA MATER or KYNNTANA go in first and work their magic, then raft up on one of them. Worked for me.

 

[BobJ]

If the SSS wants a social hour following an in bay race, I suggest figuring out a way of finishing at the Richmond YC for instance. They have room and are usually hospitable.

Richmond YC is indeed very hospitable and their members are especially good-looking. However this season, a major renovation of their clubhouse is causing them to turn down some requests. The last I heard, Round the Rocks won't be finishing there. I'm not sure about OYRA's Jr. Waterhouse either.

For Phil (if he sees this) - Apparently the master electrical panel was installed upside-down many years ago. Things like that are what led to starting the renovation, and from there it took on a life of its own. The existing building is presently just a shell.

 

[Lightspeed]

Richmond YC is indeed very hospitable and their members are especially good-looking. However this season, a major renovation of their clubhouse is causing them to turn down some requests. The last I heard, Round the Rocks won't be finishing there.

RC is working with RYC on the RtR finish...I feel confidant SSS can finish at the RYC race deck it is just the party time after the race that is in question...Stay tuned... as RC and a RYC member if the clubhouse is completed we will work hard to coordinate a great after race party...

 

[Gamayun]

Steve, the trick is to let DURA MATER or KYNNTANA go in first and work their magic, then raft up on one of them. Worked for me.

Yeah, good luck with that. I head over to CYC from time to time and even if it's just for an hour or two, they are serious sticklers for my current year yacht club badge. They also want reservations made early if you come for Sunday brunch though there always seems to be plenty of room and food. In early February, when I didn't have my new badge yet, I had to get the HMBYC office to write a letter saying I was a member in good standing. When a group of us went over there on Father's Day last year, they said there was no way they'd have room for us to eat. When we arrive, maybe 4 tables were taken up. I love the place and they're all super friendly when you're there, but it's curious why management is so overly difficult with visitors.

 

[skatzman]

Well said there, Gamayun. I find the people to be very friendly, the management very difficult. I love the clubhouse exploring the old pictures of Tiburon when it was a railyard. Might try to stop in after the Corinthian race, might not.

 

[BobJ]

Regarding their harbor, I kinda get it. We're able to handle our boats fairly well (around their members' boats) and we're arriving because we just ran a race off their deck, but we look an awful lot like a bunch of boats on a cruise-out to Sam's. Located where they are, I'm sure it's a tenuous relationship. The staff is charged to protect the place from the riff-raff and like any yacht club staff, they catch holy hell from some members if they bend the rules. We just have to be on our best behavior:

Corinthian Yacht Club visitor information.

 

[Gamayun]

Yes, no ball caps or phone use inside the club! Which I can appreciate, but I'm old school. At HMBYC, we try very hard to keep wet dogs from shaking inside the club. At least they keep the spilled popcorn cleaned up Different worlds...

 

[BobJ]

Regarding the race, I'm thinking counter-clockwise this year.

 

[Philpott]

According to Peter Hogg, "Historically the Corinthian / SSS race was started with the specific intention of the SSS racers congregating at CYC after the race." So, at his suggestion I called John, the manager of the Corinthian. John looked at the calendar, saw no Cruise-In scheduled and said that sailors are welcome to stop in for a beer after the race. Remember that, because of liquor laws, we cannot raft up and then sit around drinking our own beer or rum (David) on our boats. As I recall, the Corinthian bar cannot take cash, but only credit cards. Dura Mater will be in attendance, though, and she does take cash of any denomination, even those pesky 500 euro notes that are dissed in Europe.

 

[Wylieguy]

And just what "services" might Dura Mater be charging 500 euros for? ;-)

 

[Philpott]

And just what "services" might Dura Mater be charging 500 euros for? ;-)

That would be an appreciation fee. At the Berkeley Marine Center, whenever I take DM in for service I am charged a "Jackie surcharge" by Carl, the yard manager. I am still learning about appropriate billing practices. If you would like to pay more than 500 euros you are welcome to do so.

 

[skatzman]

Five doublehanded Express 27 now signed up and approved!

 

[Wylieguy]

That's Great! ! ! ! Anytime the E 27s have a one-design division is a good time for the other boats clustered in the mid-120 PHRF region. Now can you work on getting a few more E 27s enrolled in the OYRA & other ocean races shorthanded divisions? I'd almost subsidize a few entries.