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Corinthian Race Update

I'd foreseen the coming cluster at SHS, and jibed well to the east, accepting the I might loose places to single handers that might emerge from the scrum unscathed, and ahead. Acceptance of the present allowances a single-hander needs to make in these two races in particular (Corinthian, RTR) gets me around the course safely, but I think things can be improved.

As in any all volunteer organization, brilliant solutions (if any are available) are useless until someone steps-up and put it into action. I don't know what the right solution is, but Joe, Tom get in touch if there are tasks that need to be done to enact a solution.

Chris, FUGU
 
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It's called the Singlehanded Sailing Society for a reason and it should always remain intact as such. A lot of racers have jumped on the shorthanded bandwagon with COVID. Entry limits certainly helped as how many more would there be out there otherwise? A once a year Fiasco is enough. Hopefully many DH will join the new YRA series and thin down the SSS numbers a bit.
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I agree and float the following:
TBF SH/DH the whole idea is a Fiasco
Corinthian SH only
RTR SH only
Drakes Bay with YRA SSS SH only DH reg in YRA
Half Moon Bay would like another SH only but with the open course could go DH
Vallejo 1-2 speaks for it self
Just my two cents.
 
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It's now Monday. The race was Saturday. I've now talked to two people, boaters who are longtime friends and oft-times participants in the SSS who have heard about the park-up at Southampton this weekend. Both of them expressed the opinion that the SSS needs to address this issue or it's going to lose members. I know that the Board is aware of it, but spacing out DH and SH competitors just needs one big parking lot on the course to foul up every wisely-planned starting sequence.

Whatever gets done...is fine.

We can send DH and SH boats on different courses.
We can have SH and DH race on different days.
We can disallow DH one-design classes.

Whatever y'all decide. But this weekends parking lot at SH demonstrated that even the best planned starting sequences don't always work out.
 
Or you could have a class on the rules, for example over taking boats must stay clear. I did three 270 degree turns to keep from ending up in the tail of a wall of sport boats. Others were wisely going east to keep clear of the parked sterns. There was a nice tone to it all. It sounded like base ball bats on redwood tree trunks.
 
Did you feel like you were sailing Red Sky competitively in those conditions, or were you just avoiding boats with those three 270's?

They could have at least kept the cap at 150 boats - not a lot more than the 130 we've had in recent years. But 180, 70% of which were double-handers?

No, this is getting out of hand.
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I felt like I was in a large fleet where this happens often and one has to avoid collision by going wide or stalling, I stalled and held off. Of course in those situations one can lose a lot of apparent positions, which likely wasn't true anyway. The same thing happens at windward marks. You approach a large fleet on port near the mark, the fleet is largely approaching on starboard. You can take a chance and attempt to duck under near the mark, often a bad idea, or take all those sterns, sailing away from the mark.

I am betting in our case not a single protest has been filed. Which is unbelievable given the number of times I heard the ring of hull on hull bouncing around the Bay.

Thank you to the RC for running this race and posting the results in a timely fashion. Not an easy task given some boats failed to report their DNF's.
 
"It sounded like base ball bats on redwood tree trunks"

"given the number of times I heard the ring of hull on hull"

I never thought I'd say that I'm glad I didn't sail in an SSS race. We're there.
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What if the SSS ran a series of races that were either singlehanded or doublehanded. Transpac stays single only. Three Bridge switches between single and double every other year?
 
Two thoughts...

1) if you want to absolutely ruin a beautiful start on this year's race, try leading your fleet at BH and then try getting to SH by going through Raccon. Thought the park up at SH was bad? I avoided it entirely by spending 90 minutes in a tidal swirl on the north end of Angel Island. Southampton was easy to round one hour after the rest of the fleet. At one point I got so annoyed, i just dropped the tiller and went below and mixed a Dark n Stormy.

2) DH sailing is booming. COVID, Paris 2024, etc. SSS can either be part of the trend or separate from it. I'm pretty ambivalent. Singlehanding is awesome. DH is fun too. I'm in either way as they both keep the sandwich bill pretty low.
 
SSS can either be part of the trend or separate from it.
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The SSS has been the trend for many decades of growth and was fielding more than 100 boats for several races every year. It is an issue that I think the SSS will overcome. I think a cap of DH boats is the best way but that will still be a lot of boats on course.
 
I'm in the camp that thinks that sharing starting and finishing lines is fine, but please send the DH'ers and the SH'ers on different courses with as little overlap as possible....3BF being the exception, since that already semi-self-selects to splitting up the fleet.

You know, if the SSS hadn't capped the entries, we might have had 200 boats sign up for the Corinthian. I used to enjoy being in the thick of the Vallejo Race start...once a year, when I had three more people on the boat. I enjoy being in the middle of the 3BF morass....once a year. I can't say that I want to make a regular thing of being in 200+ boat starting fleets.

The other thing is that invariably, a few people don't report their DNF's. Every single one of those is a PITA for the race chairman and the committee. The more boats, the higher number of DNF's that don't report and the more end-of-the-day grief for the race chair.
 
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