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Safety at Sea Seminar

Also one in Richmond 4/9 or 4/10 - I'd watch the Pacific Cup site too.

If you can fit in one of the two-day hands-on seminars at SFYC (Tiburon) they are well worth it.
 
BobJ said:
Also one in Richmond 4/9 or 4/10 - I'd watch the Pacific Cup site too.

If you can fit in one of the two-day hands-on seminars at SFYC (Tiburon) they are well worth it.
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That one is not on the USSailing list, do you have info so I can post to our page?
 
Harrier, I think your experience fits into the category of "or equivalent."

[j] Proof of completion of an 8 hour Safety At Sea course within 5 years of the start date of race or equivalent.
 
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So people who live 3000 miles away have a new "hoop" to jump thru for the SHTP?
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hahaha! Brian Boschma and I are trying to figure out where to hold the Aloha Luncheon for a reasonable cost. I sent him a copy of the San Francisco Yacht Club's luncheon menu, and suggested we limit the options for participants as a way to hold down the expense. He thought about it for one single minute, then asked, "Are you going to be the one to tell the General that he can have soup or salad, but not both? Because I'm sure not gonna do it." So there you have it. As far as I can tell, there are not many requirements for Harrier. You do have a life jacket, right?
 
The rule says you must have SAS within 5 years, "or equivalent", but it doesn't say what might constitute an equivalent. Somehow this did not get discussed in all the very extensive review the RRCs went through.

Perhaps the RC will weigh in. There is certainly an issue for us if we mandate a credential that is not possible to get in a reasonable manner.
 
The first 19 editions of the SHTP were run without the requirement to attend an outside Safety at Sea class. We provide our own seminars which are specific to our race. As one who has presented some of them, I'm somewhat offended by the new requirement.

Phil, the plan is to have an SAS class at the Strictly Sail Boat Show, which will be at the Craneway Pavilion (old Ford plant) in Richmond this year. The SAS fee would include boat show admission. It's not all nailed down. If I hear more I'll post here.
 
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Thanks very much Bob and David. After re-looking at my calendar I'm out of town the 8-9 and 10th of April anyway. Im not doing the Trans Pac but I thought if Sail a Vie was ready I would like to try the Single Handed Farallones (did my first in 97) and Half Moon Bay.
Pac Cup has one but its in Hawaii.
Maybe if no other classes come up I will plead my case with the RC. Thats if Im ready to go anyway and that is a big IF.
 
The two-day courses at SFYC are full and the next SAS class (at Encinal) is the same day as the SH Farallones.

We could do a course ourselves but the course has to be "accepted by US Sailing."

How is this going to get resolved?
 
My last post was regarding the regular season. Seems if you haven't already taken an SAS class, you're out for the SH Farallones.
 
That's fine Bob but that doesn't help singlehanders. In the SSS program, the SH Farallones is a qualifier for the LongPac and the LongPac is a qualifier for the SH TransPac. SH Farallones is a significant step in the SSS program whereas your DHF is a single, stand-alone race.

When SSS cooperated with NorCalORC and adopted its new rules for SSS's ocean races, we expected it would be possible to comply with those rules. In a further development, the rules are no longer established locally but are now promulgated by the USSER committee of US Sailing. In a post on Pressure-Drop almost three years ago, I predicted this would be SSS's undoing when it came to retaining equipment and training requirements appropriate for shorthanding.

The US Sailing Safety Equipment Requirements (USSER) committee and NorCalORC are quick to point out that local race authorities (like SSS) can edit the rules as they choose, so I suggest SSS remove the SAS requirement this year since sufficient courses are not available locally. For next year, I propose that SSS reinstate its original rules for its ocean races. They were developed over many years by our own members and were designed for racing shorthanded. SSS uses its own rules for our Bay races and participation continues to increase. Participation in our ocean races dropped off significantly when we adopted the NorCalORC rules, and it has not recovered. Check the entry history on Jibeset for our SH Farallones and Half Moon Bay races to confirm this.
 
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