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todd22123 said:
Thanks Dave. Do you know if Larry's crane lift a 5500 lb boat?

Todd
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Very probably. I hesitate to speak in absolutes for Larry, and weight is not really the sole consideration.
It may ultimately depend on a combination of what your boat draws as much as the total weight of the boat.
here is why;

The haul out point in Nahwilliwilli is really the boat launch ramp and the pier next to it.
The crane is positioned effectively at the waters edge at the head of the pier.
For a variety of reasons [width of the footprint and weight, primarily] the crane cannot move farther out onto the pier.
What that means is that the boom of the crane needs to extend out to reach the boat being picked.
The farther out the boat is positioned [dictated mostly by draft], the less weight the crane can hoist without tipping over.

sorry for the convoluted non-answer.

FWIW, he does not think that picking my 5900 lb boat which draws 5.4' would be an issue.

DH
 
Here are my updates:

- Matson rate is as per indicated in this thread. I also talked to the same person (Rachel) last week. It is by far more expensive than the rate given by Pasha. My understanding is that it doesn't include the barge from Kauaii to Honolulu. To round the dollar amounts, and for my boat, Pasha using the Pac Cup deal would be about $3,100 and Matson will be about $4,700.
For racers who need their boats back in SF, I am not sure if "trucking from LA/SD is included in the price". This being said, for those of us who ship the boat back, and have a trailer, the price difference is probably worth a round trip to pick up the boat as opposed to use the Matson rate.

- I talked to Pasha as well, and as of today, it doesn't seem that Pasha is extended the rate to the SHTP racers. However, I was quoted back in september at $15 x W x L...so I am talking to Pasha if there are willing to honor that deal. If not (and I will know soon), the revised quote will be more expensive because the empty trailer won't ship for free.

It would be great to know how many of us are looking at shipping the boats back. Looking at the list of entrants, I imagine quite a few of us, which means we can leverage with Pasha or Matson a preferred rate.

to be continued...
 
My notes indicate that Round trip to/From Oakland via Matson absolutely DOES include the barge round trip to/from Oahu to Kauai.

It sounds to me like the difference may come down to where you need the boat to end up.
e.g. the net difference for return via Pasha to Oakland, by the time I account for gettting the trailer to LA and back with the loaded boat [and I count my time, + renting an appropriate vehicle + gas or paying someone for this], any cost difference is likely pretty negligible.

other than that I've nothing to add until we hear from Pasha.
 
I've been watching this tread for a week. Is there any news? I need to find some option that doesn't cost more than a replacement boat.

Are there any options besides:

1) Buy/rent a trailer and pay a total of around $7K for trailer rental and a return to Oakland
2) Strip the boat of electronics and donate it, sell it, or turn it into a "marine habitat" (if legal)
3) Hire someone crazy enough to sail it back (it's difficult to find someone crazier than me)
4) Find somewhere to berth the boat (I've had no luck so far finding anything)
5) Sail back and look for a new job

I've got a $5K return budget - tops. Does anyone have any ideas? I will be VERY grateful for any suggestions!
 
pbryant said:
4) Find somewhere to berth the boat (I've had no luck so far finding anything)
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After the 2012 race i needed a place to make some repairs and ended up berthing in Ko Olina Marina, Oahu. Ko Olina is one of the few places i'm aware of in HI that has plenty of slips that are available for long-term (more than a couple months) stay. Frolic was there Aug '12 until i sailed back to CA in June 2013. It's a clean marina, and secure but somewhat pricey and a half-hour (or more in rush hour) drive from W Marine in Honolulu. Across the entrance bay (just N of Barber Pt) is the Phoenician boatyard which is useful if you need to haul out.
 
hodgmo said:
After the 2012 race i needed a place to make some repairs and ended up berthing in Ko Olina Marina, Oahu. Ko Olina is one of the few places i'm aware of in HI that has plenty of slips that are available for long-term (more than a couple months) stay. Frolic was there Aug '12 until i sailed back to CA in June 2013. It's a clean marina, and secure but somewhat pricey and a half-hour (or more in rush hour) drive from W Marine in Honolulu. Across the entrance bay (just N of Barber Pt) is the Phoenician boatyard which is useful if you need to haul out.
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Thanks! Great suggestion! I'm checking that out now.
 
Some mentionables with my 2014 Experience. Your mileage may vary:

Express 27 was sub $5000 in 2014.

I and another Express 27 had registrations stickers stolen or attempted. Score them with a knife to make them unusable later.

I had some trailer, rudder damage, and mast "scrapes." Pad your mast ends and consider removing rudders. Rudder work is very expensive. Give your trailer/boat a good inspection before departure points. I had a hand held VHF "removed" from my boat after releasing to Matson/Agriculture, despite hiding it on the boat.

In Kuaui, a physical inspection will be made before they take your boat/trailer. It's a good time to note to the inspector the current condition of your mast, rudder and hull. They will have a diagram much like a car rental place and leave you a copy. When you pick up your boat/trailer, note any damage and show it to the Matson person. You can make claims to Matson but remember you will need evidence/documentation.

Your boat/trailer return may be delayed due to inclement weather. I believe mine took a few extra weeks to a month. The sun will beat any vulnerable materials or composites left topside.

Take your CA vessel registration with you, drivers license and trailer VIN number with you. They may want to see or verify it at different points along the shipment process.

If you have any spiders or insects or evidence of them on the trailer, remove it before it arrives in Hawaii. Else, you will be island shopping for a specific insect spray to rid them before getting your trailer in Nawiliwili.

Make sure your tongue/brakes/lights work so that you don't put Larry Conklin, the crane operator/driver, at risk of ticketing or other more serious events.

Finally, be Nice and be Patient. It will help the process.

Outside of that, I was happy that my boat arrived in one piece with minor "scuffing."

JB
 
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Hi All, I am new to the thread, and have tried to read everything before I call about the potential shipping of my boat. From what it looks like here, the crane at Nawiliwili would not be able to handle my boat (11,9k lbs). Is that the only place that hauls out on Kauai? I imagine I would have to get to Oahu if not. Any thoughts?
 
Hi Margie -
to my knowledge Larry's crane is indeed the only haul out option in Kauai.
Yes, I think your boat would be to heavy and/or wide and/or deep to be hauled there... do you have a trailer?

Best,
DH
 
Thank you for that. I figured as much. I dont have a trailer but am probably going to have a cradle made here and ship it. The perils of a big heavy boat! ;-) Im thinking Oahu is my only option. Also, I called Larry yesterday to double check and his number is disconnected?? I appreciate your response! Take care!

Hi Margie -
to my knowledge Larry's crane is indeed the only haul out option in Kauai.
Yes, I think your boat would be to heavy and/or wide and/or deep to be hauled there... do you have a trailer?

Best,
DH
 
I'm subscribed to e-mails from the Pacific Cup and just received this one. I don't know if it helps SHTP'ers or not:

http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=5f154c01bc429ddf3944aadd3&id=2f080a600f&e=29acce1e43

I sailed over to Honolulu from Hanalei Bay in 2008. It wasn't any worse than Summer in the Slot :D It sounds like this year you'd probably be leaving from Nawiliwili (if you sailed there for the awards dinner) - that's even closer. This is another option if your boat is too big for the crane (for Matson's barge).

Or sail home and see how many glass fishing floats you can collect - I did that in 2006.
 
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Thank you Bob!! I think thats my only option unless I decide to bring her home myself which is a time issue for me.
 
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