brianb
Olson 34 Driver
Judging on the radio chatter before the start some of the registration was occurring between fleets crossing the line.
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Judging on the radio chatter before the start some of the registration was occurring between fleets crossing the line.
Philpott
Cal 2-27 Dura Mater
Yes, it sounded like people were registering as we started. And at the end the RC couldn't tell the difference between Whirlwind and Nancy. Huh? Chris on Fugu got a horrific spinnaker wrap and got knocked down twice, called in to retire, then worked through it without starting his engine. He radioed the RC to withdraw his retirement, crossed the finish line sans spinnaker. Go, Chris!
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Philpott
Cal 2-27 Dura Mater
Actually I have learned that there is some controversy. When he got the terrible wrap and after he was knocked down two times, Chris called in to retire. After regaining his equilibrium, he called in to retract his retirement and finished without starting his engine (sans spinnaker). There is some issue about whether RC allowed him to finish. What is the rule about this? [I know what the Jackie rule would be: finish the Chris!]
Sailing and completing an ocean/bay race singlehanded takes courage, preparation, and a bit of luck. Many of us have experienced withdrawing from a race for any number of reasons. That too takes courage. And we relate to each other's predicaments.
Though at the time I was racing in Monterey Bay, not Drakes Bay, I have compassion and admiration for the skipper of FUGU, and congratulate him for his seamanship of getting his wrapped spinnaker lowered and then completing the course under sail.
Maybe Chris could detail how he accomplished the not trivial means of dealing with his wrapped spinnaker. One SSS SHTP skipper many of us know solved the problem by lighting his impossibly wrapped spinnaker on fire with a flare.
For better or worse, we race by a set of rules, the 2013-2016 Racing Rules of Sailing and their Prescriptions. (RRS). The Definition of "Racing" is:
A boat is racing from her preparatory signal until she finishes and clears the finishing line and marks or retires, or until the race committee signals a general recall, postponement or abandonment.
My thinking, perhaps not everyone's, is that to officially retire, for whatever reason, and therefore cease racing by definition of the RRS, then begin racing again at some later point and time, even if no advantage was gained, sets a precedent that not everyone may be comfortable with.
My 2 cents.
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Though at the time I was racing in Monterey Bay, not Drakes Bay, I have compassion and admiration for the skipper of FUGU, and congratulate him for his seamanship of getting his wrapped spinnaker lowered and then completing the course under sail.
Maybe Chris could detail how he accomplished the not trivial means of dealing with his wrapped spinnaker. One SSS SHTP skipper many of us know solved the problem by lighting his impossibly wrapped spinnaker on fire with a flare.
For better or worse, we race by a set of rules, the 2013-2016 Racing Rules of Sailing and their Prescriptions. (RRS). The Definition of "Racing" is:
A boat is racing from her preparatory signal until she finishes and clears the finishing line and marks or retires, or until the race committee signals a general recall, postponement or abandonment.
My thinking, perhaps not everyone's, is that to officially retire, for whatever reason, and therefore cease racing by definition of the RRS, then begin racing again at some later point and time, even if no advantage was gained, sets a precedent that not everyone may be comfortable with.
My 2 cents.
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BobJ
Alerion 38 "Surprise!"
I'm told some OYRA boats may have requested redress so we'll get to find out whether it was "by the book" or not. I deleted the earlier part of this post - I keep telling myself not to get worked up about this stuff.
To shorten the course they would have had to finish everyone at Duxbury (the previous mark).
To shorten the course they would have had to finish everyone at Duxbury (the previous mark).
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brianb
Olson 34 Driver
Yes, to shorten the course, which isnt what they did, they would have had to use Duxbury and inform everyone one mark prior to that, and in this case that would have been prior to the start.
Not long after I passed Dux, the RC was hailing on the radio that they had altered the finish line and explained it clearly on channel 69. I am pretty sure when this was done Condor was in my binoculars outside lands end, but a long way off. As far as setting and resetting kites, that may have been due to a very tight reach. Lots of people were dropping kites, or ripping kites near me.
Not long after I passed Dux, the RC was hailing on the radio that they had altered the finish line and explained it clearly on channel 69. I am pretty sure when this was done Condor was in my binoculars outside lands end, but a long way off. As far as setting and resetting kites, that may have been due to a very tight reach. Lots of people were dropping kites, or ripping kites near me.
Perhaps I can offer some insight to Chris's story, if for no other reason that I heard the entire exchange... Chris and I had a great boat to boat race all day into and through the gate... coming in the gate he was leading me by a about a minute judging by our spacing when we crossed the bridge shadow. I saw the wrap, but not the knock downs; I was having my own struggles easing the sheet for the puffs while holding the bow up enough to make the buoy at the time (eventually I dropped the kite about 200 yards out and finished with just the main and the pole still up, but with a dry kite).
After I crossed the line I heard Chris call in the "reconsideration" and the RC respond that he was welcome to come in and finish. Basically, what they said on the radio was that he was welcome to finish as long as he had not violated any of the "other RRS" [their exact words]. Whether or not that is a correct interpretation of the RRS is perhaps dubious; but that was what was I heard them say. I do note that his time is posted in the results for day 2.
Regardless, full props to Chris for pulling it together and finishing; and for a fantastic race all the way down. Great fun!
Also, Brian is correct, not only did CYC inform the entire fleet of the line change before the first boat finished; but did it ad nauseum when every finisher called in their approach. Correct or not, again, that's just what I heard on the radio.
Thanks to all for a great weekend!
Best,
DH
After I crossed the line I heard Chris call in the "reconsideration" and the RC respond that he was welcome to come in and finish. Basically, what they said on the radio was that he was welcome to finish as long as he had not violated any of the "other RRS" [their exact words]. Whether or not that is a correct interpretation of the RRS is perhaps dubious; but that was what was I heard them say. I do note that his time is posted in the results for day 2.
Regardless, full props to Chris for pulling it together and finishing; and for a fantastic race all the way down. Great fun!
Also, Brian is correct, not only did CYC inform the entire fleet of the line change before the first boat finished; but did it ad nauseum when every finisher called in their approach. Correct or not, again, that's just what I heard on the radio.
Thanks to all for a great weekend!
Best,
DH
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Philpott
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Well, I had a great time light air and all.
Saturdays start I hanked on a jib (125) I had not tried yet and found the lead cars to be completely useless. The clew was cut so high, I used the spinnaker sheets and blocks.
That made things interesting flying the spinnaker for the first time, but the wind was so light and I was going so slow I had to do something. So I tied off the jib, swapped the sheets and hoisted away.
Anchoring in Drakes Bay was enjoyable and I slept well.
Saturday morning I added another pair of blocks to the aft toe rail for the 125. This worked well.
Other than being late for my start, somewhere I lost track if the count and I started with H, it looked like I could be doing well. A nice breeze filled in past the point and I passes a couple boats, kept FUGU in sight, I think I even gained on him. When the breeze lightened the A-kites went up and everyone passed me. I thought the wind was too close to use a symmetrical spinnaker so I delayed trying. Eventually, I had to do something. I hoisted somewhere after Duxbury and thought I should have done this sooner!
I had a successful main first jibe at the channel, first ever, and a nice run to the Gate.
I heard the broken call regarding altering the finish due to safety concerns and guessed things were dicey inside. As I approached the bridge I decided to douse. At first it was good under main only, I finished clearing the deck and raised the 125, called in my approach, they informed me of the change to the line and I finished at 1834.
I had a great time, tried some new things, made some mistakes, learned some new things.
Thanks again for all the efforts of the race committee.
Saturdays start I hanked on a jib (125) I had not tried yet and found the lead cars to be completely useless. The clew was cut so high, I used the spinnaker sheets and blocks.
That made things interesting flying the spinnaker for the first time, but the wind was so light and I was going so slow I had to do something. So I tied off the jib, swapped the sheets and hoisted away.
Anchoring in Drakes Bay was enjoyable and I slept well.
Saturday morning I added another pair of blocks to the aft toe rail for the 125. This worked well.
Other than being late for my start, somewhere I lost track if the count and I started with H, it looked like I could be doing well. A nice breeze filled in past the point and I passes a couple boats, kept FUGU in sight, I think I even gained on him. When the breeze lightened the A-kites went up and everyone passed me. I thought the wind was too close to use a symmetrical spinnaker so I delayed trying. Eventually, I had to do something. I hoisted somewhere after Duxbury and thought I should have done this sooner!
I had a successful main first jibe at the channel, first ever, and a nice run to the Gate.
I heard the broken call regarding altering the finish due to safety concerns and guessed things were dicey inside. As I approached the bridge I decided to douse. At first it was good under main only, I finished clearing the deck and raised the 125, called in my approach, they informed me of the change to the line and I finished at 1834.
I had a great time, tried some new things, made some mistakes, learned some new things.
Thanks again for all the efforts of the race committee.
Daydreamer
SAILOR
Dead flies courtesy of Synthia's thoughtful party favors (fly swatters)... Freshly baked Pizza, Banana Bread & Apple Crumble crumbs courtesy of Tortuga's rather extensive galley.
The Cherry stains I will have to own... but you should see what the remains of the bag did to my cockpit when I stepped on it while dowsing at the finish.