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New Boat 4 Tchoup

Tchoupitoulas

Tchoupitoulas

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Apologies to Sleddog but I’ve been thinking about a different kind of boat for myself as well. Something that can also go the Interstate 5 PNW to Baja (and mountain lakes in between) towed behind the minivan range.
I’ve really been enjoying the Micro-cruiser and Everglades Challenge and Race to Alaska threads and I think I’ve found my favorite design.
JF Bedard’s River of Grass.
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So what do you say AlanH? Grab the skerry and come out for some Bay Area RAID. Solosailor get that outrigger going.
How about Horseshoe Cove to Owl Harbor?

And so yes, Starbuck is for sale.
http://sfbaysss.org/forum/showthread.php?1900-Starbuck-is-for-sale

http://bedardyachtdesign.com/
https://www.facebook.com/BedardYachtDesign/
 
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THAT looks like fun!

The thing with these little boats is that you have to re-think what's fun about sailing. You won't be hammering up the slot at 3:00 in the afternoon in July on RoG.

What got me going on the skerry was visions of beach camping in Puget Sound and Maine. Come to find out that in fact you can't really do much of that around here because there are only about 3-4 places from San Jose to Stockton where you can pull up on a beach and pitch a tent. It caused me to re-think, and if I were doing it again I might get/build a more performance-sailing dinghy.

If I didn't have visions of another SHTP, then something along the lines of a 17-18 foot version of what you've got right there would strongly appeal. HOWEVER... Horseshoe Cove to Owl Harbor, YES!
 
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Hi Tchoup,

That really is a nice micro-cruiser. Rowable. It seems like they want $2500 for cut ply and maybe a ~10k budget all-up? Not that bad really.

https://www.bedardyachtdesign.com/designs/sail/15-rog-micro-cruiser/

I had a 17' sail-row cruiser myself before the big boat.

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It was fun, but did not point very well at all. I'm probably spoiled by now. I can't believe that was more than 10 years ago.

Now I'm still procrastinating on the canoe, and sometimes thinking about a Seascape 18. I got a quote on one, they are not cheap.

A great place for inspiration, ideas, and resources is the Wooden Boat show the weekend after Labor Day in Port Townsend, WA. http://nwmaritime.org/wooden-boat-festival/ I went about 10 years ago, and now I have more time may go this year again.

If you are ever down in the south bay stop in for some alcohol and sawdust.

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pogen said:
... sometimes thinking about a Seascape 18.
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"The boat’s cuddy-cave cabin is decidedly Spartan, with not much more than a full-length double V-berth inside, but you can set up a tent over the cockpit to expand the accommodations, and the boat is easily beached so you can spread out onshore too."

Hey, David! Sounds like Desolation Wilderness on water.
 
Outriggers come on!

Pogen,
I heard Temerity changed hands. Congrats and condolences. I like the Seascape 18 as well. But once the parameter of getting a PHRF certificate was lost, I started thinking smaller.

Solo,
Without the motor mount, I couldn't tell which way she went.
Wait. Which way is which?
 
solosailor said:
You could have saved yourself some trouble and bought mine !:
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I didn't know you had an Ulua! Looks nice.

I'm always hitting slow spots because of the very sparse instructions. Mine has been on hold for years.

Maybe I should visit you for alcohol and sawdust. I can bring some alcohol if needed.
 
Tchoupitoulas said:
Outriggers come on!

Pogen,
I heard Temerity changed hands. Congrats and condolences. I like the Seascape 18 as well. But once the parameter of getting a PHRF certificate was lost, I started thinking smaller.

Solo,
Without the motor mount, I couldn't tell which way she went.
Wait. Which way is which?
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Thanks Steve. I'm still decompressing. I started thinking about Race 2 Alaska, a guy did it solo in a Seascape 18, but I think that race is too much for me solo.

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Outrigger goes on port. I think the gods demand it. Splash guard is on the bows of the main waka (hull). The hull is slightly fatter in the stern.
 
Your welcome to check her out anytime. I've got her flipped right now to take off the varnish and most of the epoxy to fair her out correctly. Just about ready to add a few coats of epoxy back on.
 
Well now I suddenly have more motivation, if I finish mine we can have DH Ulua canoe racing in the Estuary. Windward/leeward , paddle or sail. Or maybe out front of Richmond, or even Santa Cruz.
 
I still think that an SSS "Dinky Boat RAID" is a great idea. Starting in the Bay and going to somewhere in the Delta over 2-3 days would be a blast.

I may deck over the bow and stern of the skerry, or figure out a way to make a waterproof cloth "foredeck"
 
Or a raid from the mouth of Tomales bay (Dillon beach) to Inverness and back --
 
pogen said:
Or a raid from the mouth of Tomales bay (Dillon beach) to Inverness and back --
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Yes, please! I used to think I'd find time and seaworthiness to cruise Tomales on a "big" boat. Being neck-deep in yet another round of projects on a keelboat that isn't quite worth the hassle and recent visits to Heart's Desire Beach and Lake Tahoe has me thinking about downsizing to an easily towable camp-cruiser as well.
Was thinking more along the lines of the Sam Devlin type mini-yacht format, but something fast like that RoG clocking 9.5 kts...pretty rad.
 
AlanH said:
That's up in Drakes Bay isn't it? Woooo. Little boats in the ocean.
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Yes that's the top of Drakes Estero. You could camp at Wildcat Campground the first night. Is there a place to camp in Bolinas? The Skerry would handle the surf better that the RoG I imagine.
 
That's obviously my crude photoshop mock up. Not the designers'. It's using the same main mast height but lower aspect ratio. I want to keep the mast step in the same position for ease of construction.
 
RoGcatrigs.jpgHere's another crude mock up of a bigger rig in the same position. In the Everglades Challenge competitors need to lower their rigs and paddle under a bridge and so the attraction of split rigs.
 
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