I hope you bring all of that, if for no other reason than for the earthshattering contrast between the strong, light stuff you build and the buffalo-built stuff I churn out.
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I hope you bring all of that, if for no other reason than for the earthshattering contrast between the strong, light stuff you build and the buffalo-built stuff I churn out.
Philpott
Cal 2-27 Dura Mater
Hi, Vilhauer
What is your first name? It'll be good to put names (or forum names, anyway) to faces on Saturday. Regarding finish times: I am sorry, but I just don't know the answer to that. We've only done this once before, in the lead up to the 2018 SHTP.
Only three boats participated back then, none of them finished and then it started sprinkling. After videotaping the (ahem) racers' efforts my driver and I wandered off, raised the spinnaker and followed that around the bay for awhile. First there was a strong ebb then the wind changed 360 degrees We doused the spinnaker once it started to rain. When we returned to the dock we wandered around for awhile looking for everybody else, and found 'em all squashed into Don Martin's Wileycat eating guacamole, doritos and Burger King two/$5 burgers (thank you, Bob).
I'd keep my eye on E Dock boats (FUGU, Surprise!) and/or the end of D Dock, as Sea Wisdom will probably be tied up to the end there. Bring good food or beer and we'll find YOU. Remember, doritos are not food. Welcome to the SSS.
BobJ
Alerion 38 "Surprise!"
Tom V, you are welcome to join us on Surprise! and help us tame the Kraken.
Forgive the obvious but layer up, bring a PFD (although I have extras) and as suggested above, you'll want your own food.
We'll push off at 1130 (slip E-75) and will hope to be back in time for the 3BF.
Forgive the obvious but layer up, bring a PFD (although I have extras) and as suggested above, you'll want your own food.
We'll push off at 1130 (slip E-75) and will hope to be back in time for the 3BF.
BobJ
Alerion 38 "Surprise!"
A couple quick pics from yesterday, while waiting for the Cecil B. DeMille version to be released:
Fugu was getting along nicely with her e-rudder:
After determining that we wouldn't get out of Potrero Reach (mostly upwind) dragging the Kraken, Alan H and I enjoyed the sail:
Fugu was getting along nicely with her e-rudder:
After determining that we wouldn't get out of Potrero Reach (mostly upwind) dragging the Kraken, Alan H and I enjoyed the sail:
Nice shot of Chris and Fugu! That's perfect, as here are a bunch of photos of Chris and his setup, at the dock.
Here's Fugu's transom, showing the brackets for the rudder support framework, and how they line up with the outboard motor bracket frame. The motor bracket had gotten a little wonky in the frame, and it took three of us to get it out...a little lesson learned! Note that one e-rud bracket is in the shadow of the oubtoard motor mount.
Assembling blade / framework on the dock.
Here's Fugu's transom, showing the brackets for the rudder support framework, and how they line up with the outboard motor bracket frame. The motor bracket had gotten a little wonky in the frame, and it took three of us to get it out...a little lesson learned! Note that one e-rud bracket is in the shadow of the oubtoard motor mount.
Assembling blade / framework on the dock.
The lower gudgeon seems to be J-29 size, more or less...the upper one is one "size" smaller. Here you can see how two s.s. bolts server as pins, and how it's assembled.
Chris, standing next to the rudder, showing you how big it is. Chris told me that he picked up the rudder for $100 at Blue Pelican. He looked it over and decided that it probably wasn't strong enough, so he got enough carbon fiber for two layers over the whole rudder and beefed it up. That was about another $100. He says the whole assembly is about 20 pounds.
Rudders don't have to be straight! Chris's is angled up so it reaches over the back of the transom and into the cockpit.
Now go look at the picture that Bob just uploaded, above to see the rudder mounted, and in action...
Chris, standing next to the rudder, showing you how big it is. Chris told me that he picked up the rudder for $100 at Blue Pelican. He looked it over and decided that it probably wasn't strong enough, so he got enough carbon fiber for two layers over the whole rudder and beefed it up. That was about another $100. He says the whole assembly is about 20 pounds.
Rudders don't have to be straight! Chris's is angled up so it reaches over the back of the transom and into the cockpit.
Now go look at the picture that Bob just uploaded, above to see the rudder mounted, and in action...
It was great to finally meet many of you in person yesterday at the E-Rudder race. Many thanks to Jackie for organizing this. Really enjoyed spending the time with the SSS sailors and learning from you. Also, thanks for helping me debug the salt water leak issue. Here is what I found out this morning:
1) Water comes in when motoring in gear. I ran the motor in neutral gear, everything was fine. So we know it’s not the engine leaking salt water.
2) Water was coming in from aft of the aft fuel tank. There is a conduit below the aft fuel tank. Water was coming in from that direction.
3) There was so much water coming in the bilge lump was barely keeping up with it.
4) I slept on the boat on Saturday night, the bilge pump didn’t kick in. So we know the boat is not leaking salt water from one of the seacocks.
5) Water also comes in when I was sailing at 6 to 8 knots and I have the gear locked in reverse to engage the Max Prop.
Many of you suspected it was the shaft seal yesterday. I think there is a high chance that is the case. There was so much water coming in this morning when I was motoring back to StFYC, I turned around at outside of the channel breakwater and headed to KKMI. I will let you know what they find.
-Will
1) Water comes in when motoring in gear. I ran the motor in neutral gear, everything was fine. So we know it’s not the engine leaking salt water.
2) Water was coming in from aft of the aft fuel tank. There is a conduit below the aft fuel tank. Water was coming in from that direction.
3) There was so much water coming in the bilge lump was barely keeping up with it.
4) I slept on the boat on Saturday night, the bilge pump didn’t kick in. So we know the boat is not leaking salt water from one of the seacocks.
5) Water also comes in when I was sailing at 6 to 8 knots and I have the gear locked in reverse to engage the Max Prop.
Many of you suspected it was the shaft seal yesterday. I think there is a high chance that is the case. There was so much water coming in this morning when I was motoring back to StFYC, I turned around at outside of the channel breakwater and headed to KKMI. I will let you know what they find.
-Will
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Releasing the Kraken went fine, it was using it that wasn't so good.
Here's Surprise! with Bob's extra spinnaker pole....which he never uses.....set up to provide leverage points near the center of the boat.
Drogue control lines...the "bridle" went forward to blocks in the pole ends, and then back to the cockpit winches.
Bob, on Surprise! 's aft deck, setting up the bridle and drogue towing line. There's about 20 feet of chain in front of the fabric bucket drogue which you can see at Bob's feet.
The two bridle lines...port and starboard, tied to a single towing line, about 50 feet long??? ...which shackled to maybe 20 feet of chain to keep the drogue in the water. Deployment was fine, but we were not able to bring Surprise! up high enough to sail to windward to get out of the Potrero Reach. When Bob turned on the engine to keep us off the breakwater, I warned him about lines in the prop so we just used it for long enough to point the boat the other way...only to find that the port line had gotten jammed in the rudder. Initially, I couldn't move the rudder at all, though that eased up in a minute. After pulling the drogue and towing line and chain on board, that somehow...happily....free'd itself and we went for a nice sail out to Southampton Shoal and up to the Sugar Dock.
Here's Surprise! with Bob's extra spinnaker pole....which he never uses.....set up to provide leverage points near the center of the boat.
Drogue control lines...the "bridle" went forward to blocks in the pole ends, and then back to the cockpit winches.
Bob, on Surprise! 's aft deck, setting up the bridle and drogue towing line. There's about 20 feet of chain in front of the fabric bucket drogue which you can see at Bob's feet.
The two bridle lines...port and starboard, tied to a single towing line, about 50 feet long??? ...which shackled to maybe 20 feet of chain to keep the drogue in the water. Deployment was fine, but we were not able to bring Surprise! up high enough to sail to windward to get out of the Potrero Reach. When Bob turned on the engine to keep us off the breakwater, I warned him about lines in the prop so we just used it for long enough to point the boat the other way...only to find that the port line had gotten jammed in the rudder. Initially, I couldn't move the rudder at all, though that eased up in a minute. After pulling the drogue and towing line and chain on board, that somehow...happily....free'd itself and we went for a nice sail out to Southampton Shoal and up to the Sugar Dock.
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Philpott
Cal 2-27 Dura Mater
Will knows that he needs to get right down on his hands and knees. What percentage of their time do singlehanders spend peering down at their bilges? Does Sea Wisdom's bilge hold pinot noir or a chardonney?
Philpott
Cal 2-27 Dura Mater
Here is Michael Chammout, FINALLY wearing his well deserved Long Pac jacket, which went through seven people in its journey to him. Thank you, Michael, for driving me around the course for video taking.
Randy Leasure came by and took some terrific photos which are posted elsewhere on this forum and probably lots of other places, too. He also distributed bags full of donut holes. Cruelly left a whole bag on Dura Mater.
Here are Bob and David pre deployment
and Lori on Hang Ten, with George Lythcott's emergency rudder, post deployment
Five boats participated in the Second Biennial SSS E Rudder Race: Chris Case on FUGU, the only singlehander out there, Bob Johnston on Surprise! with Alan Hebert as crew, Will Lee on Sea Wisdom with David Herrigel aboard, Lori Tewksbury with Eric the Bowman Extraordinaire (he described himself to me during a party at RYC a year ago) on Lori's Express 27 Hang Ten and Kirk Dennebeim on Mirthmaker, with crew Greg Nelsen and Steve Buckingham.
Was it a race? Oh, yes! Video to follow, all boats looked beautiful. Who won the awards? Well, Mirthmaker got the barndoor award. Surprise! the Kraken award, Hang Ten the shortest waterline award, FUGU the solo deployment and Sea Wisdom the simplest mechanism. Thank you to Mr Hedgehog for the naming of the awards and the always gracious distribution of them. You've heard the phrase: "There's only one way to get one of these".
Randy Leasure came by and took some terrific photos which are posted elsewhere on this forum and probably lots of other places, too. He also distributed bags full of donut holes. Cruelly left a whole bag on Dura Mater.
Here are Bob and David pre deployment
and Lori on Hang Ten, with George Lythcott's emergency rudder, post deployment
Five boats participated in the Second Biennial SSS E Rudder Race: Chris Case on FUGU, the only singlehander out there, Bob Johnston on Surprise! with Alan Hebert as crew, Will Lee on Sea Wisdom with David Herrigel aboard, Lori Tewksbury with Eric the Bowman Extraordinaire (he described himself to me during a party at RYC a year ago) on Lori's Express 27 Hang Ten and Kirk Dennebeim on Mirthmaker, with crew Greg Nelsen and Steve Buckingham.
Was it a race? Oh, yes! Video to follow, all boats looked beautiful. Who won the awards? Well, Mirthmaker got the barndoor award. Surprise! the Kraken award, Hang Ten the shortest waterline award, FUGU the solo deployment and Sea Wisdom the simplest mechanism. Thank you to Mr Hedgehog for the naming of the awards and the always gracious distribution of them. You've heard the phrase: "There's only one way to get one of these".
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Philpott
Cal 2-27 Dura Mater
The Return Trip: By Container or Sailor?
2020 SHTP Seminar: The Return Trip
Yes, yes. The Fiasco is behind us and now it’s time to have the next Seminar in preparation for the 2020 Singlehanded Transpacific Yacht Race.
Questions to be considered: Do you plan to send your boat back by container? Will you sail her back alone or with crew? Very excellent questions, and there are people who will answer them. Yes, every single one.
First up: David Herrigel, Winner of the 2016 race on his previous boat, a Wilderness 30, has built a large crate for which people may pay approximately $220 to send extra equipment to Kauai ahead of time. What kinds of equipment? Well, that’s something you will learn at the Seminar. Here is David hard at work at Command Central in Hanalei Bay.
David and everybody else who has anything to say about it, will also be on hand to talk about the process of packing up your boat in preparation for the move by container ship. Here is a photo of the boats on trailers in Nawiliwili Yacht Harbor in 2016.
Greg Ashby, also a Wilderness Wonk, participated in the 2018 race and then – inexplicably, it would seem - sailed home again. Yes, people do that. Here’s a photo of Greg as he re-entered the bay under the Bridge. How do we happen to have that photo? Well, if you sail all the way to Hanalei Bay and back again, we will greet you upon your return, won’t we?
Mike Cunningham, on another small boat, a Freedom 30, will be on hand to provide another version of sailing a small boat back from Hanalei Bay. Here is a photo of Mike arriving under the Gate.
Can’t see him? Well, that’s what happens when you arrive at night. Remember that when you plan your return. Good optics require sunlight. This isn’t the BBC.
And finally, Charlie Casey sailed his Cal 40 to Hanalei solo and then sailed back, but with crew. Charlie will talk about his version of Return by Sailor, on a larger boat and with other people. Here is a photo of Charlie in the SSS Awards Ceremony at the Nawiliwili Yacht Club.
Well, okay. That’s not really Charlie.
Whatever your plans are, come 'round and talk about them with people who have considered some of the same issues already. Join us on Wednesday night, February 19 downstairs in the Regatta Room of the Oakland Yacht Club @ 7:30 pm.
2020 SHTP Seminar: The Return Trip
Yes, yes. The Fiasco is behind us and now it’s time to have the next Seminar in preparation for the 2020 Singlehanded Transpacific Yacht Race.
Questions to be considered: Do you plan to send your boat back by container? Will you sail her back alone or with crew? Very excellent questions, and there are people who will answer them. Yes, every single one.
First up: David Herrigel, Winner of the 2016 race on his previous boat, a Wilderness 30, has built a large crate for which people may pay approximately $220 to send extra equipment to Kauai ahead of time. What kinds of equipment? Well, that’s something you will learn at the Seminar. Here is David hard at work at Command Central in Hanalei Bay.
David and everybody else who has anything to say about it, will also be on hand to talk about the process of packing up your boat in preparation for the move by container ship. Here is a photo of the boats on trailers in Nawiliwili Yacht Harbor in 2016.
Greg Ashby, also a Wilderness Wonk, participated in the 2018 race and then – inexplicably, it would seem - sailed home again. Yes, people do that. Here’s a photo of Greg as he re-entered the bay under the Bridge. How do we happen to have that photo? Well, if you sail all the way to Hanalei Bay and back again, we will greet you upon your return, won’t we?
Mike Cunningham, on another small boat, a Freedom 30, will be on hand to provide another version of sailing a small boat back from Hanalei Bay. Here is a photo of Mike arriving under the Gate.
Can’t see him? Well, that’s what happens when you arrive at night. Remember that when you plan your return. Good optics require sunlight. This isn’t the BBC.
And finally, Charlie Casey sailed his Cal 40 to Hanalei solo and then sailed back, but with crew. Charlie will talk about his version of Return by Sailor, on a larger boat and with other people. Here is a photo of Charlie in the SSS Awards Ceremony at the Nawiliwili Yacht Club.
Well, okay. That’s not really Charlie.
Whatever your plans are, come 'round and talk about them with people who have considered some of the same issues already. Join us on Wednesday night, February 19 downstairs in the Regatta Room of the Oakland Yacht Club @ 7:30 pm.
Here is an update on what happened to Sea Wisdom during the e-rudder race. After spending a week at KKMI, the water intrusion was related to LongPac repaired rudder post. The boot holding the packing nut holding the packing gland was somehow turned by the rudder post. So the packing gland was not doing it's job. The fix was to make some adjustments so that packing nut will not come lose. Also, we put in 5200 around the boot, covering the packing nut. So this thing is water tight. Yes, future maintenance would be an issue, but I will let KKMI perform it.
Philpott
Cal 2-27 Dura Mater
solosailor
New member
Video of "Return Trip" Seminar?
Hi Jackie - Is there a video available on-line of the 'Return Trip' seminar?
Thank you in advance,
Tom
Hi Jackie - Is there a video available on-line of the 'Return Trip' seminar?
Thank you in advance,
Tom
Shipping Boats Home Documents and info
Hi All -
here are pertinent documents about shipping boats on trailers home from the last seminar;
1. a pdf of my ppt presentation from the seminar
2. a fact sheet from Larry Conkilin, which documents the relevant details of your vessel
3. a letter from our esteemed friend and crane operator, Larry, to people intending to ship home.
**note that number 3 has information, specifically the proposed schedule, "tug" status, and rates, that are still in flux, but will serve for the time being.
If you are intending on shipping your boat home, it would be a good idea to fill out the info sheet and get in touch with Larry sooner than later.
It also would be a good idea to cc me so I can help coordinate with Larry. PM me here if you need my email or other contact info.
Best,
DH
Hi All -
here are pertinent documents about shipping boats on trailers home from the last seminar;
1. a pdf of my ppt presentation from the seminar
2. a fact sheet from Larry Conkilin, which documents the relevant details of your vessel
3. a letter from our esteemed friend and crane operator, Larry, to people intending to ship home.
**note that number 3 has information, specifically the proposed schedule, "tug" status, and rates, that are still in flux, but will serve for the time being.
If you are intending on shipping your boat home, it would be a good idea to fill out the info sheet and get in touch with Larry sooner than later.
It also would be a good idea to cc me so I can help coordinate with Larry. PM me here if you need my email or other contact info.
Best,
DH